Water Infrastructure Finance Commission
Working Group 1: Current Water Infrastructure Needs and Long Term Challenges Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1pm State House, Room 350 Approved minutes
In a meeting duly posted, Working Group One (Current Water Infrastructure Needs and Long Term Challenges) convened at 1pm in the Senate Reading Room of the State House.
Members attending: Rep. Carolyn Dykema, Chair; Becky Smith, Bill Callahan, Phil Jasset, David Tery and David Riedell.
Also attending: Jen Pederson, Marianne Connolly and Pam Heidel from MWRA, John Clarkeson from EEA. Leah Robins from Rep Dykema’s office and Lee Murphy from Pennsylvania.
Representative Dykema, Chair opened the meeting at 1:20 welcomed members and guests.
Minutes from meetings held on February 2, 2011, January 11, 2011 and December 14, 2010 at the State House were accepted unanimously.ee Murphy was introduced by Rep Dykema who noted his work at the US EPA in Pennsylvania heading their state-level study, his 16 years managing Pennsylvania’s SRF and focus on asset management. Mr. Murphy began with a power point presentation which will be submitted to the commission’s records.
The challenge of this commission, as it was in Pennsylvania, is to both get attention on the problem of deteriorating infrastructure AND promotes good solutions.
In Pennsylvania, biggest needs identified in order:
Becky noted that this could be a moment to pivot into new technology and wondered if that was a consideration for PA. It was included in the report but not the draft legislation
Understanding the infrastructure need is not as simple as comparing EPA needs survey to SRF and other state funding sources
Only capital costs
Supposed to look out 20 years, more realistically 5-10 years of data
Need to wrestle with the entitlement mentality from cities and towns (often tied in with unfunded mandate arguments), need to partner with communities to empower them to start filling the gap rather than waiting for federal government. Construction Grant program part of the roots of this issue. It ran from 1972 Clean Water Act through 1987 and tapered off in the 90s. $2.4 Billion in its heyday with 75% of project costs often being covered. Federal dollars are now in a downward trend and the need is only increasing.
Gap in funding
(Capital + O&M + debt service) – Revenues = gap
Tighe and Bond Water/Sewer Rates Survey may be a key to this puzzle.
In Pennsylvania gap information used to inform state program
2002 EPA Gap Report
How did PA create their gap analysis?
PA Gap results:
$113.6B Total 20 year needs (O&M, debt service, and capital)
-$69.8B revenues (at current rates)
$43.8B gap
+ current user rate (assume covers O&M and debt)
Sum won’t get us to a number similar to PA, still some other capital cost that we aren’t covering
Suggested that Tighe and Bond Water/Sewer Rates Survey may be a missing piece (noted that it overestimates water use to be 90,000 gallons/year) OR that we could incorporate into that other sources of data like the MWRA Advisory Board Water and Sewer Rate survey. Absent survey information from each system, assumptions will need to be made transparently and defensibly.
Drinking Water Gap graph
Waste water address
Discussion several times about how to consider MWRA communities and if they can be seen separately from MWRA
Rate increases
Both charts set a strong argument for increasing rates, but the hard sell each utility will face in making that case was addressed, strong education campaign to public and industry will be crucial
Mr. Murphy noted that in draft legislation there is requirement for each system to include a customer assistance program. No details for how to set up, but gives the license to create a fund to help poor pay for the increased costs.
Key task force recommendations that garnered further discussion
National efforts, was planned to include gap analysis as an option for 2011 SRF but EPA can’t afford it with potential budget cuts looming
Options for MA
Combination of sampling and modeling
Who does the work?
PA did all of it with state employees
How precise do you need to be to galvanize action?
Next steps:
Meeting adjourned at 3:30.
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